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#9054 – Regarding "#8400 - Upgrade planning"

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Monday, 19 September 2022 19:20 UTC
hajo70

1. Regarding my ticket "#8400 - Upgrade planning"; I realize now that you didn't answer my 3rd question, "3. Any uninstall/clean-up of SH404SEF [after having installed 4SEF and 4SEO]?" As I've understood it, SH404SEF can (must?) be disabled but not uninstalled for the import into 4SEF and 4SEO to work. But I assume I must uninstall it for the upgrade to J4 to work afterwards and that the uninstall process removes everything of SH404SEF? 

2. Looking at the documentation there seems to be import wizards in 4SEF and 4SEO for SH404SEF data. Or has "sh404SEF importer" I found in the Development versions-section anything to do with this?

Best regards

Håkan

Tuesday, 20 September 2022 06:46 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

As I've understood it, SH404SEF can (must?) be disabled but not uninstalled for the import into 4SEF and 4SEO to work.

Correct, you can disable it but you don't have to and I would recommend leaving it to the respective extensions to handle it

- 4SEF will disable it when doing the import (to avoid having new URLs created while the import is happening)

- 4SEO will not disable it, because it does not care about SEF URLs. Many people run their site today with sh404SEF and 4SEO, that's a perfectly fine and valid combination (until you want to move to J4 of course)

But I assume I must uninstall it for the upgrade to J4 to work afterwards and that the uninstall process removes everything of SH404SEF? 

You must uninstall it before upgrading to J4 indeed. You won't be able to uninstall it after upgrading, as the uninstall process runs some code for removing various plugins. That would not work under J4 and you'd have to remove all pieces by hand.

Note that:

- uninstalling sh404SEF is done by uninstalling the Administrator sh404SEF component. See documentation here.

- by default, when uninstalling, sh404SEF leaves all data in place (the database tables). To also remove sh404SEF data from the database, you need to check these options in its configuration (see documentation page I linked to above).

I actually recomment that you don't do that and leave all sh404SEF data in the database. The reason is that it'll let you redo the import process in 4SEO even after upgrading to J4 (4SEO does not need sh404SEF to be present, it only needs the data from the database). So if you leave the data in the database, you have a chance to redo the import process in case something goes wrong due to Joomla 4.

2. Looking at the documentation there seems to be import wizards in 4SEF and 4SEO for SH404SEF data. Or has "sh404SEF importer" I found in the Development versions-section anything to do with this?

Yes, both 4SEF and 4SEO have built-in importers, you do not need any additional extension. The sh404SEF importer in the downloads is meant for sh404SEF to import data from MijoSEF and JoomSEF.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 

 
Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:59 UTC
hajo70

Thank you very much for a clear and comprehensive answer!

 

Håkan

Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:26 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

You're welcome! Closing this ticket now, feel free to open a new one as needed. If you do so, please mention this ticket number in the new one.

As you are on public forum, where we can only reply to pre-sale questions, next time be sure to use the  our helpdesk for any question, that's where we provide support for our subscribers.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
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