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#6152 – Sobipro and item menu for page title

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Wednesday, 10 June 2015 07:19 UTC
Liliana
hi, I would like to ask you if sh404sef work with url or item menu, in order to edit browser page title.
Because I need to use it with my component sobipro, in which I have:
- Category with item menu (that I have to edit the page title made by sobi pro)
- Entries without item menu that I don't have to edit, because the sobipro default page title is ok.

Thank you
Wednesday, 10 June 2015 08:12 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

sh404SEF can set title, meta data, OGP or Twitter cards, etc for any page on your site. This data is attached to the non-sef URL created by Joomla and extensions, and doesn't care what's the actual content of the page is or what the URL itself is made of.

Rgds
 
Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:58 UTC
Liliana
I have this active: https://www.sigsiu.net/download/applications/128-router

Will sh404sef work with it?
Friday, 12 June 2015 22:33 UTC
Liliana
Yannick Gaultier said me to write in the forum but nobody seems to answer my last question.
Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:12 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi Liliana

Sorry about the delay. Yes, if no specific sh404SEF SEF URL plugin is created for SOBI, then it'll default to using the Joomla core SEF router.php file.
URLs are usually not as controlled as when a custom plugin is written, but they all get stored in database, and you can always customize them as you see fit.

Rgds
 
Tuesday, 16 June 2015 21:04 UTC
Liliana
I am sorry, I haven't understood.
does sh404sef will overwrite other extension?
I use sobipro plugin: https://www.sigsiu.net/download/applications/128-router
and restara sobi pro template (https://www.sigsiu.net/download/templates/156-sobirestara).

Now my browser page title is made by restara template, but I have to edit the title of some pages.

Thank you
I am sorry for my english
Wednesday, 17 June 2015 07:16 UTC
Liliana
Let me Know
Wednesday, 17 June 2015 09:25 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

does sh404sef will overwrite other extension?
sh404SEF will overwrite other extensions if somebody writes a plugin telling it how to overwrite URLs (for Sobi in your case). If not, it will use the router.php file provided by the extension.

Now my browser page title is made by restara template, but I have to edit the title of some pages.
It's more than unusual that a template create a page title, usually they only display it (insert it in the page). Joomla provides an API for extensions to create titles. I strongly doubt the template is actually creating the title.
sh404SEF allows you to customize title and meta data per URL, regardless of what extension is creating that page content.

If the template and the extension follow Joomla API, the title assigned withsh404SEF can then be inserted into the page. This is how it works:



Rgds
 
Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:01 UTC
Liliana
"if somebody writes a plugin telling it how to overwrite URLs (for Sobi in your case)"
Of course I haven't written that plugin, will your extensions do it?


The page titles are made by restara template, the template of Sobipro, not the template of joomla. I think you have never use it.

If you would test it and say me if your extension do it, i could buy it.

Thanks
Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:24 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi
Of course I haven't written that plugin, will your extensions do it?
Hmmm, programmers write software, not extensions. Not sure I understand what you mean exactly.

If a template actually creates meta data and titles, then there's a conceptual issue in the design. Templates output data provided by extensions, not the other way around. Though indeed I don't use Sobipro or its extensions, this seems to be confirmed by the restara template page here: https://www.sigsiu.net/download/templates/156-sobirestara

I'm sorry but we don't have the resource to do that sort of test. It's really up to you to decide. We do have a 30 days refund policy that should allow you to test as much as you need and see for yourself.

Thanks and regards
 
Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:33 UTC
Liliana
"Hmmm, programmers write software, not extensions. Not sure I understand what you mean exactly."

I mean do you know if your extension overwrite title page configured by restara template of sobi pro?

It is very simple.

I think you don't know. Am I Right?
Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:53 UTC
wb_weeblr
Well if you keep changing your questions, it's kind of hard to answer. So I'm going to answer both again:

1 - You asked: will sh404SEF works with this: https://www.sigsiu.net/download/applications/128-router

Meaning you talked about routing. My answer is the same as above: sh40SEF needs a plugin to build SEF URLs. It will usually work with a router.php file designed for Joomla SEF (this is what https://www.sigsiu.net/download/applications/128-router is), but a dedicated sh404SEF custom plugin is needed for best result. We don't provide such plugin, as we don't have demand for it, but we can be hired for that, or you can hire a freelancer maybe.

2 - Page title: I have answered this on the first reply. I thought it was pretty clear:
sh404SEF can set title, meta data, OGP or Twitter cards, etc for any page on your site. This data is attached to the non-sef URL created by Joomla and extensions, and doesn't care what's the actual content of the page is or what the URL itself is made of.


Frankly, I don't kno what I can add to this for clarity. You keep bringing up the template, as if the template had anything to do with page title construction (vs just output).
I think at this stage, if you don't trust my answer, you'll just have to try for yourself :)

Rgds
 
Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:43 UTC
Liliana
"non-sef URL created by Joomla and extensions"

Url created by https://www.sigsiu.net/download/applications/128-router is ""non-sef URL created by Joomla and extensions" or it be considered sef ????

I don't understand your answear, I trust you of course. I don't know sh404sef.
Trust me if I tell you that restara template makes the title (from data field of sobipro entries or categories).
Thursday, 18 June 2015 15:27 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi
Url created by https://www.sigsiu.net/download/applications/128-router is ""non-sef URL created by Joomla and extensions" or it be considered sef ????
This file, the one you download from sobi, is a router.php file. Its job is to transform a non-sef into a SEF and it's designed to work with Joomla SEF.
Like I said before, sh404SEF can use such a file to build URL, though it may or may not work as well as a sh404SEF specific file.

Trust me if I tell you that restara template makes the title (from data field of sobipro entries or categories).
THat means the template don't build teh tile. It only outputs it.

Rgds
 
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