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#11748 – Too complicated for normal people

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Wednesday, 09 April 2025 06:43 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

Hi

You should make videos who explain step by step how to set it up. In both Joomla and Open AI. Not only text.

I will have to unstall it again because for me it is too complicatet to set up. After install my site maps do not work anymore. I will have to reinstall my complete hompage back to before I bought 4SEO. 

I will need help to make the setup otherwice I will not use it.

Hope for your understanding.

Best regards

Peter Kjeldsen

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 06:59 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

I will have to unstall it again because for me it is too complicatet to set up

1 - Which extension are you talking about? Pretty much all of them have Getting started videos already.

You don't even have to search fort them, they are embedded in the component under the Help menu.

2 - Assuming you are talking about 4SEO, there's no setup aside from entering your website home address. Which is exactly what the video says. Video which is available in the component, on the product page and in the documentation.

3 - What are you trying to do that requires a setup? what SEO actions are you trying to perform specifically?

4 - "After install my site maps do not work anymore.": 4SEO does not influence your existing sitemap.

I suggest the following: 

- you are on a pre-sale section, so I will close this ticket now

- open a ticket in each extension helpdesk category, so that I know which extension you are talking about.

The Helpdesk starts at https://weeblr.com/helpdesk, and each extension is clearly marked there.

And of course: always, always mention your real and full website URL. No real support can't be provided without the real website URL, there's just nothing to check.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 11:48 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

Hi Yannick

Thank you for your reply.

 

I bought all in one SEO, but it looks like this is not 4AI?

I thought I got all in All in One with this package?

That’s why I cannot make I work, I think with AI.

 

Am I right?

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Vkevadsvej 46B

Kvkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Sendt: 9. april 2025 09:00
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Wednesday, 09 April 2025 12:28 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

I bought all in one SEO, but it looks like this is not 4AI?

What does AI has to do with SEO? Again: what are you trying to do?

We have several extensions, all listed under their own pages: 4SEO, 4Analytics, 4AI, 4Podcast, 4SEF.

By the name, you can tell what each extension does: SEO, Analytics, AI, Podcats, SEF URLs.

None of these extensions are "too complicated", fortunately for us, or else we would have been out of business 10 years ago.

They do things that are very well defined on their product pages. 

I would suggest that you star by explaining what you want to do, and then I can see what extension may be best suited for you.

After install my site maps do not work anymore. I will have to reinstall my complete hompage back to before I bought 4SEO.

Your sitemap works fine and why would you have to reinstall your website? why don't you just disable 4SEO or uninstall it?

Sorry, all this makes no sense.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 12:48 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

Hi again😊

 

Yes, I can see that now.

 

I thought by buying All in one SEO, I bought a whole package including 4AI.

Like when you buy a compete page builder with all extension, templates etc.

I use YOOtheme page builder.

 

That’s why I couldn’t make 4AI work yesterday. I could not insert API etc. and make it work.

 

I wanted an extension helping me to make AI contents and SEO text for my page for a beginning.

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Værkevadsvej 46B

Kværkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Sendt: 9. april 2025 14:28
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Emne: [weeblr.com] Reply to ticket #11748 Too complicated for normal people [Pre-sale questions]

 

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 12:54 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

Like when you buy a compete page builder with all extension, templates etc.

Our extensions are different, they have no relationship with each other, because they work on different problems.

I wanted an extension helping me to make AI contents and SEO text for my page for a beginning.

4AI can help you create, modify or change content. 

"SEO text" does not exist but you can certainly use 4AI to write content.

And AI has nothing to do with SEO. So 4SEO is an extension for SEO.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 13:12 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

So, it means that I must buy 4AI also?

Will you help me make it work If I have problems with the setup?

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Vkevadsvej 46B

Kvkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Sendt: 9. april 2025 14:54
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Wednesday, 09 April 2025 14:32 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

So, it means that I must buy 4AI also?

It depends on what you want to do. You only said so far that you want to "AI contents and SEO text for my page"

Do you need an SEO extension? what for? what SEO tasks do you want to do?

Will you help me make it work If I have problems with the setup?

I provide support for my extensions. If you want to do some SEO tasks with 4SEO, and you don't know which button to press, I can tell you that.

I will not do SEO work for you. I will not tell you what you need to do to improve your SEO. 

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 15:42 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

I think the 4SEO works now.

Only it says that sitemap do not work.

 

It says at google Generel HTTP-failure 503

It is not connected.

 

No, no, I don’t expect you do the work SEO work.

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Vkevadsvej 46B

Kvkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Sendt: 9. april 2025 16:33
Til: Peter Kjeldsen <[email protected]>
Emne: [weeblr.com] Reply to ticket #11748 Too complicated for normal people [Pre-sale questions]

 

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 16:00 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

This is support. Please open a ticket for your sitemap issue in the 4SEO section.

(Actually there's no issue, this is all normal, the sitemap is only available after the site has been fully analyzed)

You will need to read that page to understand how this works.

It says at google Generel HTTP-failure 503

Did you submit your sitemap to Google? you should not have done that until it's ready. Actually, and ideally, you should simply connect 4SEO to the Google Search Console, so that all this happens automatically, including any update.

Closing this ticket now, feel free to open a new one as needed. If you do so, please mention this ticket number in the new one.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 

 

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 16:01 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi again

By the way, your sitemap is now ready and working fine, as expected.

Note: you should remove the JSitemap mentions you have in your robots.txt file.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 09 April 2025 16:24 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

In Google Search Console it says under “status” it could not be read. There is still a failure on Google using this https://nordicdental.dk/sitemap-4seo.xml .

 

So I don’t need Jsitemap now?

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Vkevadsvej 46B

Kvkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Sendt: 9. april 2025 18:02
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Wednesday, 09 April 2025 16:24 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

I deleted SEO sitemap and added it again, now it is green😊

 

But will your system generate the other 3 sitemaps or they are not needed?

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Værkevadsvej 46B

Kværkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Sendt: 9. april 2025 18:02
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Wednesday, 09 April 2025 16:27 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

I deleted SEO sitemap and added it again, now it is green

That was not needed. It was going to be built in due time.

But will your system generate the other 3 sitemaps or they are not needed?

4SEO includes the images in the main sitemap, so there's no need for that. 

And yes, the "mobile" sitemap is not needed and just a waste of time and server resource.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Thursday, 10 April 2025 09:06 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

Hi Yannick

 

The problem was that I bought 4SEO thinking that I bought the whole package, and I started with 4AI. That’s why I couldn’t make it work, sorry for that.

 

I have some questions😊

 

I see that you have Structured data, does it mean that I don’t need Google Structured data from Tessos?

 

About Analytics, what can you recommend? We cannot use Google in Europe, if yes, I will have to buy Cookie banner who cost 50 Euro a month. Too expensive.

I have now Matomo On-Premise installed on my server https://matomo.org/pricing/?nav

I can always upgrade if needed.

 

What can you suggest?

 

It looks like that I must set those two things op before start using 4SEO.

 

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Værkevadsvej 46B

Kværkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Sendt: 9. april 2025 18:28
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Thursday, 10 April 2025 10:08 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

I see that you have Structured data, does it mean that I don’t need Google Structured data from Tessos?

Correct. Nor JSitemap of course. Or Regular Labs ReReplacer for instance.

About Analytics, what can you recommend? We cannot use Google in Europe, if yes, I will have to buy Cookie banner who cost 50 Euro a month. Too expensive.

I have now Matomo On-Premise installed on my server https://matomo.org/pricing/?nav

I can always upgrade if needed.

What can you suggest?

You realize we have 4Analytics, right? a fully private analytics package that runs on your site, and for which you do not need any cookie banner, or RGPD management tool at all?

To the best of my knowledge, this is the only Joomla extension that does not require RGPD-compliance extensions (JRealtimeAnalytics, by the JSitemap developers, is not private and requires RGPD-compliance extension, including a cookie banner for your users).

Also, it's fast.

if yes, I will have to buy Cookie banner who cost 50 Euro a month. Too expensive.

4Analytics is not free but cost is much lower.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Thursday, 10 April 2025 12:12 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

You are right.

I bought your Analytics now.

Do I just use standard configuration from the start. I mean, I can change it later right?

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Vkevadsvej 46B

Kvkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Sendt: 10. april 2025 12:09
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Thursday, 10 April 2025 12:48 UTC
PeterKjeldsen

Now I bought SOO, AI and analytic from you.

Why cannot I add your Analytics in SEO?

I only find all others.

 

Venlig hilsen/ best regards

 

Peter Kjeldsen

 

Nordic Dental

Vkevadsvej 46B

Kvkeby

4100 Ringsted

Mobil: +45 2872 0160

www.nordicdental.dk

VAT: DK-39286904

 

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Thursday, 10 April 2025 13:44 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

Why cannot I add your Analytics in SEO?

I don't know what that means. What do you want to do.

Surely as you've seen in the video, there's no configuration for 4Analytics, there's nothing to do, you just accept the default configuration, that's it. 

Of course, later you can change things.

I will now stop responding in this ticket. Please open tickets in the respective extensions categories.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr