#9236 – Feature request: Pages sorting & Language filter

Hi

1) Sort the Pages by url. Currently the sorting looks kind of random. Would be good to be able to sort the Page URL's by clicking the columns on top (so also for example by duplicates, Google Speed, etc.)

4SEO is designed differently and sorting is indeed not the most important thing here:

- Ordering is done in 2 ways: alphabetical sort based on the URL itself or "Item" which means grouping URLs by their content (and then run an alphabetical sort). 

Item is the most interesting in terms of SEO as it groups first duplicates URLs. So if you have 5 URLs to the same articles, then they will be grouped together. And then the entire list is also sorted alphabetically. This IS sorting by duplicates.

Likewise, "Sorting by Google Speed" is not really a thing. There's no order in Google speed: you pass or your fail, but not page is "higher" or "lower" than another one. Which is why we don't sort by "Speed" (we could not do that anyway, there's no Speed score to sort) but instead have a filter for it: Show all or show failing URL.

2) Filter by Language.

That's a bit trickier and simpler at the same time. The way you would select URLs for a language is just by typing the language code in the search box: en/ or fr/

Of course, if you don't have a language code in the default language, then you won't be able to select that.

There's no issue with the data, we have the page language. 4SEO does not "just" scan for links. Once a link has been found, it is stored and later on, in the background, that page is loaded, it's content analyzed and stored. That's how duplicates are detected for instance.

Right now it's more a matter of priorities, and also a bit about user interface.

What's the reason to select URLs per language? what operation are you doing?

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

Hi

(which is indeed a work-around that works for all non-default languages)

I have added that to the list of requested features, maybe I can add something when the list of languages is not too long and it can be done with buttons.

Additional language-specific analysis (incorrect/inconsistent/missing hreflang, incorrect/missing x-default, etc.) could then also be added to 4SEO as a side-effect of adding this language-aware feature. 

Well, you can always use SEOInfo for that, it does the best job at analyzing and verifying hreflang. But verifying hreflang is very, complex and requires a lot of resources: you need to load all the pages linked (through the hreflang of the current page) to the current page and:

- check them for existence

- check that they don't have a canonical pointing at another URL

- check that the language code and language region are valid against the RFCs list

- check that they are not blocked by robots.txt or have a meta noindex

So in your case, to check the hreflang of one page, I have to load in the background 5 or 6 other pages, then parse their HTML to extract the hreflang links, any canonical, match against robots.txt, search for meta noindex.

That's what SEOInfo is doing, but only on one page at a time. 

Screaming Frog actually is not that thorough but even without doing all these checks, they have the advantage of running on your local, very powerful and not CPU-constrained by a hosting company, while 4SEO must run, often on a few $/month shared host.

We have a more basic version where we only do the initial test of having all related hreflang existing but that most basic test still requires loading all the related pages in the background, which is too much to ask.

And if you don't do that, then there's no point in just checking the hreflang syntax, that's not the problem really.

By the way, did not realize Falang was working on Joomla 4, is that recent?

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

Hi

Sometimes you don't have to wait too long: I made a change to the latest dev version to have a language filter on the Pages page.

You can download that version from the development versions download area  and just install over. I think it should work the same with Falang, although we do not support Falang officially (frankly, I did not expect it would make the cut to Joomla 4), it should still be ok.

The filter should only show if the site is multilingual (ie native Language Filter plugin is enabled) but I also have the code to detect Falang in there, at least the code that worked on Joomla 3, so maybe it'll work the same on Joomla 4.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr