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#2534 – Random Breadcrumbs Issue

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Wednesday, 27 July 2016 15:44 UTC
JoeJoomla
Hi Yannick,

I'd like to get your advice on this issue. It may or may not be an sh404SEF situation but I would like to know if you have come across something like this before.

A client pointed out that the breadcrumbs module on their site appear to show random article titles. This is a Joomla 3.5.1 site.

I've checked into it and confirm that it is doing this.

I'm including a couple of attachments for you.

1) This attachment (Blog 2016-07-27 10-41-25.jpg) shows the Blog menu item (itemid-492 & category id 911) with a random article subject showing. The breadcrumb should only be 'HOME/BLOG' in this case

2) This is the sh404SEF duplicate URLs for 'blog'. It appears that I have the correct non-sef URL selected. What should be the proper URL structure for the blog menu item? The menu type is 'Articles » Category Blog'.

The URL for the website is http://xxxx.com

Any insight you can shine on this for me would be great.

Thanks Yannik.

Best regards,

Joe Sonne
Wednesday, 27 July 2016 15:53 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi Joe

I can't say if sh404SEF has anything to do with it. I think I have seen something like that before but can't remember if sh404SEF was involved.
This setup is pretty typical, the same as we have here at weeblr.com for the blog, and the breadcrumb is quite fine. The duplicate list shows some weird and pretty unusual non-sef URLs (type=signup???) but as the main URL seems ok, that should not be an issue

1 - What's the site URL? superadmin credentials will probably be required actually.

2 -
What should be the proper URL structure for the blog menu item
The "blog" URL has strictly no bearing on the breadcrumb. The only thing that matters is the Itemid (and of course the article/category/ id itself). Or at least it was last time I checked.
One thing you might want to check is if this is the standard breadcrumb module, or if it has template overrides that may alter its behavior.

Rgds
 
Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:12 UTC
JoeJoomla
Hi Yannick,

Here's the login credentials for you:

URL: http://www.xxxx.com/administrator/

user: xxxx

pw: xxxx

While you are in there, can you tell me if I have the Global Configuration set up incorrectly for SEO in regards to sh404SEF?

http://www.xxxx.com/administrator/index.php?option=com_config


The blog category does have layout overrides for styling. I'll see if there is something that might be affecting the breadcrumbs module.

Thanks and Best regards,

Joe Sonne

Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:17 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

OK I don't always think about it first hand, but the problem (unrelated to sh404SEF) was caching. As Conservative caching is enabled, the module is caching whatever is the first blog post title is loaded, and then always uses that.

I disabled Caching under the Advanced tab of the breadcrumbs module, and that fixed the problem. You can easily check the behavior by enabling it back, loading any page from the blog, and see that that blog title is used in the breadcrumb until you either clear the cache or disable caching.

As for global config, there is not much to say. I have a personal thing which is to keep the global Joomla meta description and meta keywords empty: it's likely better to not have any rather than always the same one. Not everyone agree, though everyone agrees that all (significant) pages should have custom crafted description (and no keywords, that currently serves no purpose, but cannot hurt unless you put too many - dozens, which will look like spamming).

As a side note, I also usually leave Error reporting to System default rather than None. None will disable all error reporting, including to log files, which deprives us from valuable debugging data. A good host would have properly configured their system to not show PHP errors on the screen, but only log them to file, so that should not be a risk.

Cheers

Yannick
 
Wednesday, 27 July 2016 19:20 UTC
JoeJoomla
Hi Yannick,

As always your information and feedback is terrific!

Thank you very much for looking at this, I certainly appreciate it.

Your recommendations are well noted and I will implement this on the site.

Best regards,

Joe Sonne
Thursday, 28 July 2016 17:05 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

You're welcome. When times allow, I always feel it's better to provide background than just a raw "solution"...

Closing this ticket now, feel free to open a new one as needed. If you do so, please mention this ticket number in the new one.

If you created any superadmin account for us, be sure to delete or block it now to avoid unnecessary risk in the future.

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Rgds
 
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