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#12192 – 4Ai the community version

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Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:40 UTC
HDcms

Hello

I am retesting the community version before potentially purchasing the paid version.
I have an OpenAI account, and I created a key that I entered in the 4AI field.
First of all, I am uncertain if the account is active. How can I find out?

Next, I attempted to translate a blog article on a test site.
Nothing happened!

But I do have credits.
(cf images)

What should I do?

I would be more interested if other LLMs such as Perplexity (for which I have a pro account), Claude , better yet, local open-source LLMs (Ollama, GPT4All?) were available.
Are any of these planned?
Regards

 
Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:08 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

First of all, I am uncertain if the account is active

Which account? you don't need a Weeblr account to use 4AI. As for your OpenAI account, if this is what you mean, well you should go to the OpenAI website to check the current status.

Are any of these planned?

Not really. Perplexity is not a very good LLM in terms of API, it does not bring anything to the table compared to OpenAI and Gemini, which are much better grounded. Perplexity provides Sonar as an API, and that's based on Llama 3, so quite a notch below the others. Claude is much better and comparable to the others but again not a priority as it also does not bring that much to the table.

As for local llms, this is more for enthustiasts, and I don't consider that a primary goal for 4AI.

FYI, the current development is about images, bringing in Nano Banana for image creation and modifications, which really is next level.

Best regards,
Yannick Gaultier
https://weeblr.com | @weeblr

 

 

 

 
Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:10 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi again,

Nothing happened!

What does that mean? You click on the SUbmit button and absolutely nothing happens? don't you even have some error in the developer tools console or in your PHP error log?

Best regards,
Yannick Gaultier
https://weeblr.com | @weeblr

 

 
Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:23 UTC
HDcms

Hi

Thanks 

A/ No, I don't have any errors. According to my images, I have credits. If I click, I don't get any errors even after enabling debugging.
Your interface tells me that I have selected openAI and the gpt-4o-mini model, but the yellow boxes at the top of my image page show tokens used 0/0
and nothing is displayed on the same page on the side Tokens used/remaining 0/0
This puzzles me! It seems simple to me, after selecting the key that I just regenerated from openAI.

Don't you have a button that tests the validity of the openAI connection?

B/ Alternatives for me
I have a free Perplexity pro account :-)
I understand for others, but that would require me to spend money with OpenAI for a non-profit website with no budget :-(
While searching today, I found some interesting prospects. If you're interested in contributing, there's a project in the works that would work with LLMS like Ollama.
https://magazine.joomla.org/all-issues/september-2025/level-up-your-joomla-extensions-with-the-ai-framework
https://github.com/joomla-projects/gsoc25_ai_framework/issues/11

j!6.0.2
php 8.3.16

 
Tuesday, 27 January 2026 17:45 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

According to my images, I have credits.

This is not about your credits. If you did not have credits, you'd get a big message saying "You don't have credits".

Don't you have a button that tests the validity of the openAI connection?

Nothing to do with openAI.

I don't get any errors even after enabling debugging.

Debugging won't help, 4AI is a javascript application for the most part. If "nothing happens", then you have a javascript error of some kind. You need to look first in your browser developer tools console.

I understand for others,

Sure but my extensions are products. I only work "for others", that is for the majority of users I want to serve. I literally never had a single demand for anything other than OpenAI or Gemini.

If you're interested in contributing, there's a project in the works that would work with LLMS like Ollama.

I am fully aware of this project, it certainly is interesting but has major drawbacks:

- it'll be another year or more before there's actually something

- it'll only work with Joomla 6+ at best

- I did all that work at the end of 2022, within 3 months after ChatGPT was revealed to the world and started the while AI frenzy. It's all working already, on J3 through J6 (and J7 when it arrives).

Best regards,
Yannick Gaultier
https://weeblr.com | @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 28 January 2026 13:54 UTC
HDcms

Hi

Thank you for your quick responses.
I will leave my suggestions for now, hoping that one day you will be able to benefit from this work of integrating a Joomla framework that is more open to other LLMs, including open source ones (I'm surprised you haven't had any requests for Perplexity at least, even if I understand that you consider it to be less effective)!
In any case, I've looked at all the extensions and you are clearly still one step ahead.

I'll come back to the main unresolved point.
a) OpenAI:
It's probably because I used a translator due to my poor English, but I didn't understand that there is no way to check the connection because I don't have any messages! Do you mean that I currently have no credit left?
b) Google:
I normally avoid all GAFAM tools, including Google, but maybe I should try this free Gemini option by creating an account. Do you have a tutorial on this? Can we run two LLMs with 4AI?

Developments
As I haven't been able to test it yet, I wonder if it would be possible in the area I'm interested in (not image generation)
1/ automatically suggest the top 10 most important Joomla tags based on the content of the article
2/ scrape articles as other extensions do https://www.joomboost.com/joomla-components/181-joomgrabber.html
The idea is not to take all the content, but to enter a URL and get a suitable summary with a link to the source.

Currently, and less importantly, I would like to know if I understand correctly that 4Ai would allow me to translate an article but also take care of all the internal work in the administration to get the same article in another language as output!
Regards

 

 
Wednesday, 28 January 2026 14:05 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi,

I'm surprised you haven't had any requests for Perplexity at least, even if I understand that you consider it to be less effective

Perplexity Sonar (the API) was only launched in january last year, it's super late to the party and does not bring anything new or better than the other, it's actually quite a bit behind.

Perplexity in itself, the "search engine", is not uncommon but it's not something that be integrated in 3rd party products, you need an API for that.

there is no way to check the connection

There is a way to check connection. 4AI checks the connection. Your connection is good. No problem with your connection.

 Do you mean that I currently have no credit left?

No. I mean that your problem has nothing to do with OpenAI or whether you have credits or not.

Your problem is totally unrelated to your Open AI account.

When you have no credit left, then 4AI displays a message "You have no credit left".

I normally avoid all GAFAM tools, including Google, but maybe I should try this free Gemini option by creating an account. Do you have a tutorial on this? Can we run two LLMs with 4AI?

1 - OpenAI is about the same as Gafam, probably worse because they are even less controlled by authorities

2 - It's all in the documentation.

Developments

1 - Not really, tags are not used that often. We are an SEO company, so 4AI already has "keyword extractions", so that can be used in ads, SEO keyword research, etc

2 - Absolutely not, and I will never, ever do that  under any form.

Best regards,
Yannick Gaultier
https://weeblr.com | @weeblr

 

 

 
Friday, 30 January 2026 13:11 UTC
HDcms

Hi
Okay, I would really like to complete the 4AI test.
I created a Google Gemini account, then in 4AI, I tried to select Google, but nothing happens when I click on that term.
I also can't deselect OpenAI. (cf image)
Can I give you access to see what is preventing me from configuring 4AI correctly?

regards

 
Friday, 30 January 2026 13:12 UTC
HDcms

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Friday, 30 January 2026 13:44 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

Can I give you access to see what is preventing me from configuring 4AI correctly?

This is a Pre-sale ticket, and we do not offer support for the community versions of our extensions.

I also can't deselect OpenAI. (cf image)

Correct, the community version only supports OpenAI (FAQ).

Are you sure you are not trying to use features that are disabled in the community version?

Best regards,
Yannick Gaultier
https://weeblr.com | @weeblr

 

 

 

 
Friday, 30 January 2026 13:47 UTC
HDcms

re

I made the mistake at the beginning because the pro indication is not very visible.
Now I'm really annoyed that I can't test Gemini. I read the documentation and I wonder if there isn't a bug, because I can't remove OpenAI or select Google Gemini!

 
Friday, 30 January 2026 14:21 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

because I can't remove OpenAI or select Google Gemini!

I provided you with the link, did you followed it?

 

There's no bug and it's all working as expected.

Best regards,
Yannick Gaultier
https://weeblr.com | @weeblr