#12070 – Installing 4SEO

Hi

Thanks for planning on using 4SEO.

As sh404SEF was doing both meta and OpenGraph, there is a direct and automated migration path from sh404SEF to 4SEF (for SEF URLs) and 4SEO (all the rest and much more).

But indeed there's nothing to import your data from OSMeta or ochOpenGraph, and you need to be aware of that and decide on how you want to handle data transfer. I don't know how much data you have in either extensions, so maybe that's not really an issue but you do mention "a lot of content" so it may be one as well.

on a test copy of TallAndTrue.com first?

100%. You can't do such important changes to your site on the live version.

However, will it simply be a case of uninstalling the OSMeta Pro and ochOpenGraph and installing 4SEO, or should I allow more time for the install and configuration?

You need time. SEO is not a matter of "install an extension and be done with it". You need to decide what you want to do, which features to enable or not, etc

4SEO works very, very differently from any other (SEO) extension. It does work just like Google, it's a crawler that will analyze all pages on your site, and then will keep "watching" the site for changes. Note that while you do that on the test copy first, you'll redo it when you go live.

While the initial analysis can last a long time, hours or more, other functions of 4SEO do work in the mean time (structured data generation, opengraph/twitter card, any redirection, meta data rule, ...). 1st version of sitemap and auto-canonical are generated only after the full first analysis has completed. Updates are done in the background.

Please have a look at the documentation. It'll give you a good view of how this all work.

I've got a lot of content on my website, and I feel it's not showing up properly in search results.

Just be aware that 4SEO will do the 95% of what can be automated, and give you the tools to do the rest, today's SEO really is about your content. Not it's items count, but it's value (in the eyes of search engines). There's no magic wand, although the sort of things 4SEO do is the mandatory basic things, required to just be in the race.

Best regards,

Yannick Gaultier

Hi,

You're welcome! Indeed having built and shared content from 2017 is certainly the major factor contributing to doing well in search and getting some traffic. Which also is by far the best way to appear in AI assistants mentions and possibly links.

One thing I'd like to mention as well, as are not using sh404SEF, is that the 1st rule of all is that you never change your URLs. I mean that URLs for you articles should never change once you have started sharing them and search engines have indexed them. It's easy to change URLs in Joomlac content, for instance by modifying menu items, adding or removing them, so pay attention to that.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

Hi

I am going to close this ticket as this not a pre-sale ticket any longer. Make sure to open support requests in the 4SEO support section in the future.

Let me add the following comment before that:

All button and found 710 other errors (200, 307, 308, 401, 403, 410, etc, etc!).

200, 307, 308 are not errors. They denote redirects. This may or may not need fixing, your call.

401 means that user is not authorized to access the page (ie needs login most likely)

403 means user is denied access

410 is the same as 404, but a bit odd as Joomla does not trigger 410. So I'm gessing there's a redirect here, going to another site and that site is triggering the Not found error.

Pay attention to the filter at the top of the page, Errors vs Redirects.

Also pay attention to the difference between the Broken links page and the Recorded errors page. The former are links on your site that may have issues. The latters are just errors that happened when a page on your site was rendered, but it may well come from a bot requesting a totally inexistent page.

Unfortunately, I have had to do that with a few stories and posts, and wholesale when I stopped using sh404SEF in my website upgrade to Joomla 4.

That's why 4SEF was available when Joomla 4 was released, to maintain all sh404SEF URLs as they were.

But now it's too late and you certainly do not want to change back.

I've also offered to do a talk about it at a future online Joomla Australia Online User Group meeting.

I am absolutely available to do remote talks to user groups, if there's any interest in that from your groups. While you have hands on experience with 4SEO, we can certainly talk about other extensions such as 4Analytics for instance.Let me know.

Best regards,
Yannick Gaultier
https://weeblr.com | @weeblr

Hi

You're welcome! Let me know about the talks, just open a new ticket.

Closing this ticket now, feel free to open a new one as needed.
 If you do so, please mention this ticket number in the new one.

Best regards,
Yannick Gaultier
https://weeblr.com | @weeblr