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#11467 – are you working on other AI APIs with a maximum number of free credits

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Monday, 09 December 2024 15:06 UTC
HDcms

Hello

I started testing and then using different AI platforms with free access. It works pretty well but I would prefer to use it integrated into joomla.
I just recreated a token but it seems that I don't have any free credits by going through the API? cf image
Is there no other way or are you working on other AI APIs with a maximum number of free credits at the start without putting your credit card again?

I see in your presentation:
"Extract keywords, get keywords or associated hashtags to fuel your SEO research and linking efforts."
Is it possible to integrate it into the joomla tags directly by clicking on the keyword (or button after selecting the keywords)?

Regards

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 15:11 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

Is there no other way or are you working on other AI APIs with a maximum number of free credits at the start without putting your credit card again?

4AI does not deal with credits. You enter your OpenAI account key and 4AI sends requests to OpenAI API servers.

If you have credits, free or paid, then OpenAI accepts. If you do not have credits, then OpenAI refuses to answer the requests.

Again, 4AI does not know what credit you have or anything about your account.

I see in your presentation:
"Extract keywords, get keywords or associated hashtags to fuel your SEO research and linking efforts."
Is it possible to integrate it into the joomla tags directly by clicking on the keyword (or button after selecting the keywords)?

I don't know what you mean by that. What do you want to do?

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 15:19 UTC
HDcms

Hello
a) I was talking about openAI credits and I thought I had some (see the image)?

I'm not sure I understood;
Do you have other plans for other AI APIs to work with free credits per day?
For information I use Claude and I hope that one day you will be able to integrate it so much I find it permanent

b/ if I understand correctly, return a list of keywords from the article with AI. Should we copy the keywords one by one (heavy) or click on the keyword (or button after selecting the keywords) to integrate them into the joomla tags directly?

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 15:33 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

I thought I had some (see the image)?

You do not have any credit on your OpenAI account, that is what the image says.

Do you have other plans for other AI APIs to work with free credits per day?

For information I use Claude and I hope that one day you will be able to integrate it so much I find it permanent

Yes, I have plan to integrate Claude. The current issue is that Claude does not have image-generation API. So you still need OpenAI for that and it's a problem to integrate both for different purpose. This is why I have no yet integrated Claude.

Should we copy the keywords one by one (heavy) or click on the keyword (or button after selecting the keywords) to integrate them into the joomla tags directly?

You may want to do that if you want, but that's not what these keywords are made for. They are made for mostly:

- creating links between articles

- creating new articles based on related keywords

- buying ads for these keywords

Creating tags is not generally a good idea for SEO, unless you control very well duplicate URLs. I mean it's not bad, but it won't help your SEO has tag pages have no SEO value.

So no: there's no plan to create tags based on these keywords. At all.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 15:47 UTC
HDcms

Hi

ok thanks for your quick answers.

I don't know about the majority of your customers but I will go through specialized sites for the few images I may need! If I buy your extension it will be to save me time in integrating text into articles by trying to minimize the costs (or free) of AI APIs.

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 15:50 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

by trying to minimize the costs (or free) of AI APIs.

There's no free API. Running AI models cost too much.

As for images, I can't be sure but I understand this is something my users want.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 16:07 UTC
HDcms

Hi
Thanks
For info in my search for costs via api
Concernant la tarification API, Claude se montre plus économique. Par exemple, Claude 3 Haiku propose des tarifs compétitifs à 0,25 dollars par million de jetons d’entrée, tandis que GPT-4 de ChatGPT coûte 30 dollars pour le même volume de données.
...
https://www.lebigdata.fr/chatgpt-vs-claude-quel-modele-dia-est-le-meilleur

and also (but I didn't understand everything) :
https://quickcreator.io/quthor_blog/price-comparison-claude-2-ai-vs-other-models-in-market/

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 16:19 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

For info in my search for costs via api

If you compare these numbers in real use, there's no significant difference. At the end of the month, you'll have one more or one less $ or €.

and also (but I didn't understand everything) :
https://quickcreator.io/quthor_blog/price-comparison-claude-2-ai-vs-other-models-in-market/

Exactly the kind of very low quality post entirely created by an AI.

If you see phrases like "In the realm of AI solutions,", it's almost a 100% guarantee this was written by chatGPT  ;)

Just words after words of nothing.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 16:37 UTC
HDcms

re

a) Ah ok I thought the difference was significant
b) indeed the drifts of the i.A :-(

Thanks

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 17:10 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

Ah ok I thought the difference was significant

That difference would be significant ($0.25 / 1 million vs $30 / 1 million). But because the article was written by an AI, this information is false.

Claude3 haiku is $0.80 / 1 million tokens.

Claude 3 Sonnet is $3 / 1 million

Haiku compares more to chatGPT 4o-mini, which is $0.15 / 1 million input and $0.6 / 1 million output

Sonnet is more like chatGPT 4o, which is $2.5 input and $10/output

Comparison is complicated especially when you factor in difference between input and output.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 

 

 

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 17:22 UTC
HDcms

HI
Thanks , oh another article generated by AI :-(
On the web I wonder if AI does not generate as many or even more problems than before!?
Thanks I continue to search and think

 
Monday, 09 December 2024 17:42 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

On the web I wonder if AI does not generate as many or even more problems than before!?

Much, much more. Which is why 4AI is not built to write content for you (it can, but that's not the main point) or do other tasks automatically.

It's here to help you do things.

Closing this ticket now, feel free to open a new one as needed. If you do so, please mention this ticket number in the new one.

If you created any superadmin account for us, be sure to delete or block it now to avoid unnecessary risk in the future.

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Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr