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#9710 – use of indexNow

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Monday, 20 March 2023 13:45 UTC
HDcms

Hi again
good idea to integrate additional tools competing with google.
I saw to submit an old page in the [Pages] page.

1/ Is there any place where there is a possible setting of indexNow?
2/ Is there an auto-submission for each new joomla article? hikashop product?
regards

 
Monday, 20 March 2023 13:58 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

good idea to integrate additional tools competing with google.

Not really the point. I don't believe IndexNow has any value to be honest, it's more "by popular demand".

I saw to submit an old page in the [Pages] page.

You should NOT submit old pages, or any existing pages. IndexNow is only and stricly only for NEW or just modified pages.

Existing pages are listed in the sitemap, as Bing and IndexNow request.

Also, remember that IndexNow does cause your pages to be indexed. It's only a "ping" to tell Bing and others that a page has changed. They may come to your site to check the page. Or they may not. 

And even if they come to visit the page, they may decide NOT to index it.

1/ Is there any place where there is a possible setting of indexNow?

We currently do not need any setting. You click a button and the page is submitted to IndexNow, that's all.

2/ Is there an auto-submission for each new joomla article? hikashop product?

There's no auto-submission because this would require that we can tell if a page has changed. We can't really do that in a 100% reliable way. 

The other thing is that submitting requires maybe 0.5 to 1 second, so that will take a lot of time if you have even just a few thousands pages.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 

 
Monday, 20 March 2023 14:13 UTC
HDcms

Hi

Thank you for the quick answers

Yes, I understand that
* these engines do what they want with the submission
* less important than GG for SEO, that's why it's important not to depend on GG by supporting alternatives.
* taking new or modified pages, but that's why I find it strange in the "submit to indexnow" sub menu; Surely some do!

I currently use indexnow from aimy; I like and find useful the settings and the message that appears when creating an article (or modification) to ask if you want to submit it to indeexNow (simple and practical).
I'm not sure if it's the first time I've integrated indexNow into 4SEO, but can I continue to use it and have it coexist with the aimy extension?

 
Monday, 20 March 2023 15:19 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

but that's why I find it strange in the "submit to indexnow" sub menu; Surely some do!

Quite possibly, but that's your responsibility! I can only take it so far. You have to consciously decide to do that. And decide which pages you want to send and which not. Just like you should not include all pages in your sitemap, you should not send all pages to IndexNow.

when creating an article (or modification) to ask if you want to submit it to indeexNow (simple and practical).

I tend to avoid this solution in general, because it causes a lot of duplicate content: people tend to - like you suggest - submit when they create a new article. However, with many Joomla sites, articles are created before the menu structures. And/or menu items are added or remove, which changes the items URLs. And so we end up with duplicates URLs submitted to search engines (seen that a lot with other sitemap extensions. That's the reason there never was a sitemap maker in sh404SEF, because it's super hard to do properly. 4SEO sitemap is based on actually crawling the site, like Google, for this reason.

I have no doubt it's easier, my long experience tells me it causes more trouble than what's it's worth.

You can certainly keep using Aimy's solution, there's no problem. Just make sure the URL is stable when you do so.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 

 
Thursday, 20 April 2023 05:34 UTC
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