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#8185 – 4SEO Sitemap - Images

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Tuesday, 05 October 2021 19:49 UTC
TheAllusionist

Yannick,

I just did the update and made sure images were checked, but the dashboard shows no images even after rebuilding......  Is there an extra step? I haven't had time to check out documentation, if it is in there just let me know.  You should still have access to the backend:

https://www.example.com/administrator/

Username: [redacted]

I don't remember what you gave me for a password, if you don't know feel free to send me what you would like me to use.

 

Thank you,

Russell Thomas

 

Wednesday, 06 October 2021 07:59 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi Russell,

From pas tickets, the admin pwd was sh404SEF, but you can set it to what you want, just paste it here if it was changed.

However, I cannot access your /administrator page, I get this:

I suspect you have some IP-based or geo-based protection on that? if so, you can use [redacted] as a IP for us.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 06 October 2021 09:51 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi again

I have tested again on local copies of IgniteGallery sites and it seems to be detected alright. Your sitemap has exactly zero images in it, which is kinda of odd, it should at least detect some logos and stuff. 

Really need to check on the settings I think.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Friday, 08 October 2021 13:11 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

I have access now, I have cleaned up all the error logs, reset the analys and installed latest version and started an analys from the admin. 

I'll look at the result later today when it completes.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Friday, 08 October 2021 13:33 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi again

So it completed now and I looked at the sitemap, it looks pretty good to me, especially without any fine-tuning. It picked up all full-size images in your gallery, plus a bunch of others.

There might be some optimizations to do, for instance:

- exclude images/yootheme/header-receiver.svg, it appears on many pages, is just an icon and has no SEO value. Unfortunately, it's an SVG so 4SEO cannot know its size and discard it automatically

- maybe increase images minimal size to be included in the sitemap, I see multiple webp such as https://www.example.com/media/plg_jspeed/cache/images/50044c53c6e40010a81236c25c3f3b350948142e.webp. This is also an icon and it has no value, but it's 307x307 so it's above the 200 pixels minimum width set by default.

I'll let you go through it. If you exclude some images from the sitemaps (Sitemaps | Settings | Images), you'll have to reset the analysis and re-rerun it. It did not took very long, maybe 20 minutes or so at most.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Friday, 08 October 2021 19:34 UTC
TheAllusionist

Yannick,

Thank you very much, for my own knowledge, did I have something set up wrong? Thanks again for all your help and for including 'Ignite Gallery' in it.

Best regards,

Russell Thomas

 

Saturday, 09 October 2021 15:33 UTC
TheAllusionist

I made those changes yesterday and hit the rebuild button and choose to overwrite the existing one, but don't see a change in date or number of images.....  Maybe it is working fine, just thought I would mention it in case updating isn't working, just trying to help beta test, not trying to be bothersome.

Regards,

Russell

Saturday, 09 October 2021 22:42 UTC
TheAllusionist

It is now showing a different number of URLs and images, so it seems to be working. Thank you and feel free to close the ticket.

Russell

Monday, 11 October 2021 07:01 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

Thank you very much, for my own knowledge, did I have something set up wrong?

No, it was running with defaults and there are things than cannot be identifed automatically. For instance, we set the minimum width for an image to be included at 200pixels, which is reasonable for most sites but then, looking at your specific sitemap, I saw that this allows inclusion of some useless images, that appears on each and every page.

So as a second round of improvement, I suggest maybe try identify and exclude more images -which is always what you want in sitemaps, pages or images sitemaps. The images you really want in your sitemap are the ones in your galleries really, not the smaller, decorative ones, or icons or similar.

I made those changes yesterday .

WHich changes? 

and hit the rebuild button and choose to overwrite the existing one, but don't see a change in date or number of images.

Which button? the sitemap rebuild button on the Sitemaps page? or di your "Reset analysis" entirely?

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Monday, 11 October 2021 19:31 UTC
TheAllusionist

The changes I made was to make minimum image size greater than 310, could bump that up, but moved it there as older images for content could be 320 for back in the day when the site was Mambo and used news modules.....  I also excluded the directory /images/yootheme/*.* so that theme imges weren't being recorded.  

When I mentioned hitting the  button , it was in the sitemap section.  Evenutally the number of images decreased so I assume it worked. 

I am curious about the section in the site map where it shows when it was submitted, when their crawler visited and then there is the column for read, but looks like it never gets read....

Thanks for your help,

Russell

Tuesday, 12 October 2021 07:47 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

When I mentioned hitting the  button , it was in the sitemap section.

OK, great. That does not require any length of time then. And indeed the sitemap should have less images with those settings.

when it was submitted, when their crawler visited and then there is the column for read,

Assuming you have not disabled automatic submission, the sitemap is submitted when it's built. After you hit the "Rebuild" button, the sitemap should be rebuilt right away. However, it's not submitted right away after that. First you need to have a frontend visit (or a cron) to trigger this submissin background job. And then we also have an up to 5 minutes delay to avoid submitting sitemaps too frequently to search engines.

The last visit record shows when the given search engines came and loaded any one of the sitemap files. 

The % read value shows how much of the sitemaps files content have been read. On most single language sites, there are only 2 files: /sitemap-4seo.xml and something similar to /sitemap.en-GB.4seo.1.xml.gz.

Usually, Google will fetch the main sitemaps seconds after it's been submitted, and they fetch the second sitemap file within minutes. But this may vary a lot depending on when they did visit for the last time for instance as they also come and re-check the sitemap on a regular basis (independantly of a new one being submitted).

Within a few days, Google should read your sitemap. I have noticed that Bing however does not seem to actually read the sitemaps, at least not after the initial read.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 

 
Friday, 12 November 2021 05:34 UTC
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