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#11004 – Transform the text: area for own stylometry of my news

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Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:25 UTC
cauromedia

Hello,
The component is being of great help to me. However, I miss the possibility of generating my own style in one of the options. When I want to transform the text, a custom option that would be saved to be used on more occasions would be very useful, so that I don't have to write the custom instructions over and over again. That is, I can configure a stylometry for all my news. Will this be possible? Thank you

Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:29 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

Not sure I follow you. When you transform text, you are starting from an existing content, right? from an existing article page. So all the styling should be preserved?

1 - Which "transform" operation are you performing?

2 - "a custom option that would be saved to be used on more occasions would be very useful, so that I don't have to write the custom instructions over and over again."

What "custom instructions" are you talking about? please provide a full and real example.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:39 UTC
cauromedia

Thanks for your prompt response. I reproduce the steps to follow:
I create an article with your image and your text.
I go to Open AI and click transform
It offers me several styles. I need to generate my own style for the articles I generate. That is, instead of always having to manually write the Custom writing prompts, there is an option for these personalized instructions to be pre-recorded so that you can use them when you need them.

Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:56 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

OK, I understand. But what type of instructions are you talking about here?

Again, please provide a full and real example of these custom instructions.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:12 UTC
cauromedia

An example of the custom instructions I want to give to the articles is:


"Reconstruct the news using a journalistic and formal style, in active voice, short sentences, avoid technical language, include direct quotes in quotation marks, include statistical data, and make sure the text is between 300 and 500 words. Do not use rhetorical questions and guarantee high cohesion and coherence in the text. Avoid the use of adjectives and epithets unless they are objectively informative, use the inverted pyramid structure and make sure that the resulting text is significantly different from the original. Only the words will be capitalized in the titles. that need it, to start a sentence or to be a proper name. Do not omit definite and indefinite articles in titles."

Therefore, it would be very helpful to be able to save it as a regular template.

Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:06 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

And what transform operation do you apply this enormous prompt to? Spell/Grammar, Shorten, Expand, Summarise, Change style, Rewrite for keywords, Translate?

Honestly, such huge prompt is not supposed to have very positive effect but the biggest issue is that it would require to have such template per transform action

If you only use 4AI for this exact type of work, meaning you always want to have this text, you can use the Details about yourself or your organization under Configuration | General | User profile.

But be aware what you store there is going to be appended to each and every requests.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:47 UTC
cauromedia

Yes, but it does not pay much attention to the specifications of the user profile. However, it does pay attention to the specific specifications of transforming the text. I think they could add an option that is to transform the text with a specific template

Thursday, 18 April 2024 07:30 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

Yes, but it does not pay much attention to the specifications of the user profile. However, it does pay attention to the specific specifications of transforming the text.

There's no difference between both. They are both just a bunch of text that is added at the end of the prompt. That sort of prompt is just way too long and complicated, the impact on the LLM is doubtful in practice.

In fact, there's a difference:

- custom instructions are added at the end of the prompt (but before the article content)

- userProfile instructions are at the start, in the system prompt

I think they could add an option that is to transform the text with a specific template

I'll think about that. A full template is not practical. We would need different template for each functions, way too much.

Maybe I can something simpler, like a library of custom prompts, and you can easily select one when creating the prompt.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 
Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:25 UTC
cauromedia

that would be a big help

Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:59 UTC
wb_weeblr

Hi

I have added a tracker item for this, but don't expect any immediate change.

In the mean time, I can tell you how I handle this sort of things myself: I use a text expander. There are many such small software for each platform (espanso is an open-source and free of charge one for instance).

Any text I have to type repeatedly, I save as a shortcut and I can have it typed in automatically in any context. For instance typing:

$$lorem

outputs:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisici elit, sed eiusmod tempor incidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Donec sed odio operae, eu vulputate felis rhoncus. Salutantibus vitae elit libero, a pharetra augue. Nihil hic munitissimus habendi senatus locus, nihil horum? A communi observantia non est recedendum.

I use the $$ prefix for all my shortcuts, but that's just my preference, you can use anything you like.

So you could have separate templates assigned to different shortcuts depending on your needs.

Best regards

Yannick Gaultier

weeblr.com / @weeblr

 

 

 
Sunday, 19 May 2024 05:34 UTC
system
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