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#4696 – sh404SEF & Hidden Menus

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Thursday, 22 February 2018 17:09 UTC
paulof
Hi,


I've been a sh404SEF user for a good while now, since before Weeblr (It don't remember the name of the company that used to sell it for you). Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that sh404Sef used to have an option to discover the site links (I imagine it worked like a crawler + go over the website menus), I don't know why the option was taken out but would it be possible to add it back?

The reason I'm asking this is because I always have one of more "hidden" menus. These can be menus that are the collection of temporary landing pages, user pages, and so on.
I imagine (again I might be wrong) that the old feature of discovering the website links used to go over all the menus, not just the menus published on the website via a menu module. This is handy.

Currently, the way I handle hidden menus urls is to setup custom links in sh404sef (maybe there is a better way?).


Looking forward to hearing your comments, hopping that my premise is not all wrong :)

Regards
Paulo  
 
Thursday, 22 February 2018 17:19 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that sh404Sef used to have an option to discover the site links (I imagine it worked like a crawler + go over the website menus), I don't know why the option was taken out but would it be possible to add it back?
Nope, we never had anything like that.

I imagine (again I might be wrong) that the old feature of discovering the website links used to go over all the menus, not just the menus published on the website via a menu module. This is handy.
I have built a simple crawler at some point as an experiment, but a crawler actually crawl pages, so it cannot discover things that are not displayed on pages. The use case was limited as there are better tools available to crawl pages and I dropped the experiment a long time ago.

Currently, the way I handle hidden menus urls is to setup custom links in sh404sef (maybe there is a better way?).
That's how I do it, we do also have some specific landing pages and that's usually the fastest. Another way is to have the hidden menu visible only to superusers for instance. You can then login to the site on the front end and that module is displayed, which causes the links to be created. Which is more convenient depends on whether you already have a login box displayed on the site for instance, or the layout of the site.

Rgds
 
Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:28 UTC
paulof
Hi,



Thanks for the clarification, that crawler project is for sure what I am referring to.
What you think of adding an option to check all the website menus? I imagine that there are lots of people that use hidden menus. Is there a downside to this?


Edit; I wanted to let you know, that if I am supposed to receive an email update each time the support ticket is updated, I'm not getting them.

Regards
Paulo
 
Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:55 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

The crawler project was never public, it's only something I played on locally to evaluate complexity/benefits.
As for something that would discover the menus, hidden or not, I have no plans for that as it's not in demand and the alternative (manually creating the links or publishing the menu module privately) seems to fit the bill for most. The discovery process, though not really complicated, is some additional code and user interface that don't appear a good compromise at the moment.

Edit; I wanted to let you know, that if I am supposed to receive an email update each time the support ticket is updated, I'm not getting them.
You are supposed to receive notifications. The notifications are sent, but your address seems invalid:

[xxxx]

Seems you have a spam filter acting up here:

[xxxx]

You should whitelist the weeblr.com domain.

Rgds
 
Thursday, 22 February 2018 19:09 UTC
paulof
Hi,


I'm pretty sure there was a button in sh404 that created links. I remember this clearly. Maybe this was before you started selling directly and the other guys were distributing a dev version?
Or maybe its something else? I am certain the option existed.

I can work around it, its more of a "it would be nice" kind of situation. Just curious, why do you feel it compromises the user interface?



About the email, it must be at the server level (not my email client), I just updated my cpanel spamassasin option to send all spam to the spam folder. I'm guessing it will help.
Thanks for looking into it.

As a sidenote: I experienced this issue myself, I'm in the process of moving my emails to an email provider that uses mailchannels. If you're interested, I'll let you know if it worked out for me.


Regards
Paulo
 
Friday, 23 February 2018 12:05 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

I'm pretty sure there was a button in sh404 that created links. I remember this clearly. Maybe this was before you started selling directly and the other guys were distributing a dev version?
I am the one who wrote every single line of code in sh404SEF, ever. Anything Digital did not do any development on it at any time, nor could they distribute any modified version.

Or maybe its something else? I am certain the option existed.
I can guarantee you this option never existed. The only recommended way to have URLs created again after purging URLs is to to use an external tool, such as a link checker or sitemap maker. This is for crawlable links of course, the recommended solution for hidden menu has always been manual creation.

About the email, it must be at the server level (not my email client),
Yes, the response is from the email server. If at client level, our email server would never knew about it.

mailchannels
I was not aware of this service. They seem to offer outbound email filtering, I'm not sure how that can help us? we are certainly not sending spam. This seems to be meant for entities that run a network of senders (ie a company with multiple senders) and want to block their own people from spending spam?

We use Sendgrid, pretty reliable so far. We had Mandrill before, which was good as well on that front but is not available anymore, except as part of Mailchimp.

Regards

 
Saturday, 10 March 2018 05:34 UTC
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