• Home
  • Get help
  • Ask a question
Last post 46 min ago
Posts last week 141
Average response time last week 4 hours 42 min
All time posts 67807
All time tickets 10478
All time avg. posts per day 21

Helpdesk is open from Monday through Friday CET

Please create an (free) account to post any question in the support area.
Please check the development versions area. Look at the changelog, maybe your specific problem has been resolved already!
All tickets are private and they cannot be viewed by anyone. We have made public only a few tickets that we found helpful, after removing private information from them.

#4595 – Just canonical tags

Posted in ‘sh404SEF’
This is a public ticket. Everybody will be able to see its contents. Do not include usernames, passwords or any other sensitive information.
Thursday, 01 February 2018 20:36 UTC
bobptz
 Hi

I am already using the following native joomla options:
Search Engine Friendly URLs
Use URL Rewriting
Add Suffix to URL

I do not want sh404SEF to interfere with this.

All I want is to control the canonical tag of they duplicate pages.

Is this possible?
Friday, 02 February 2018 09:18 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

Simply put, no. How can sh404SEF take control of Joomla created duplicates if we do not creates URLs ourselves? Putting canonical inside of pages is a last resort solution. You can do that with sh404SEF, but that's not how we fight duplicate content. We fight duplicate content in Joomla by making sure that no duplicate content is created in the first place: by not using menu items to create links.

So an article will always have the same URL regardless of how and where you link to it.

Rgds
 
Friday, 02 February 2018 09:29 UTC
bobptz
>>>>
How can sh404SEF take control of Joomla created duplicates if we do not creates URLs ourselves?
<<<<
Ok, I understand.

>>>>
We fight duplicate content in Joomla by making sure that no duplicate content is created in the first place: by not using menu items to create links.
<<<<
I am sorry, I may be ignorant in this. Could you send me a link/article that explains this?

This is a typical page of the site. If I remember well, the url comes from the menu item alias:
xxxx.com/children-greek.html

I thought this is the proper way to do it.
Friday, 02 February 2018 09:37 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

Could you send me a link/article that explains this?
I am not aware of any. Aside from SEF extensions, specifically sh404SEF, nobody likes to talk about that ;)

This is a typical page of the site. If I remember well, the url comes from the menu item alias:

xxxx.com/children-greek.html



I thought this is the proper way to do it.
There's no "proper" way. If you use JOomla SEF URLs, then the links come from the menu items. If you use sh404SEF, the link comes from the category (optional)/article title.
As Joomla uses constantly an "Itemid" in its internal URls, and base the URls on it, the link to an article may depends on which page you linked from. For instance, linking an article from the home page may create a link such as /children-greek.html, but linking the article from a module on another page might take another menu item and get you another link.

It does not happen usually for simpler sites, but it starts happening for more complex site, with modules linking to recent or latest or most sold items or similar.

With sh404SEF, the link will always be the same: /category/article-title (in addition, the links are highly conifgurable).

Let me rephrase that then: what do you mean by "All I want is to control the canonical tag of they duplicate pages."? Which "duplicates pages" are you talking about?

Rgds
 
Friday, 02 February 2018 11:04 UTC
bobptz
This is the problem I want to address.

I go to the new google search console (beta):
search.google.com/search-console?resource_id=https%3A%2F%2Fxxxx.com%2F

I go to
Status - Index coverage - Duplicate page without canonical tag (Excluded)

I see the following links:
xxxx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=129
xxxx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14&Itemid=131
xxxx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=135
xxxx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=136
xxxx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76&Itemid=134
xxxx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=purity_iii:features-intro&id=18&Itemid=181
xxxx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=purity_iii:features-intro&id=19&Itemid=138


SOMEHOW google found these links. I don't know how. Google thinks (rightly) these are duplicate pages and therefore does not index them. However I have the feeling that google penalizes my site, therefore I want to use canonical tag or 301 redirects to fix this.
Friday, 02 February 2018 11:08 UTC
bobptz
this one too:
xxxx.com/contact-us.html?view=alfcontact
Friday, 02 February 2018 11:11 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

SOMEHOW google found these links. I don't know how. Google thinks (rightly) these are duplicate pages and therefore does not index them. However I have the feeling that google penalizes my site, therefore I want to use canonical tag or 301 redirects to fix this.
Those are non-sef URLs. You may have some links to them on your site which is weird, but I don't know.

I would then suggets you simply enable 301 redirect to SEF URL under the Advanced tab of sh404SEF configuration. Check that the redirect works on a few sample URLs and this won't be an issue anymore (be aware that the search console may take weeks before they update their display, if not months).

Rgds
 
Friday, 02 February 2018 14:08 UTC
bobptz
I did what you say and it works for the bulk of urls I posted.

It seems that the only url it is still not working is this one:
xxxx.com/contact-us.html?view=alfcontact

Any idea how to fix this one too?
Friday, 02 February 2018 15:45 UTC
wb_weeblr
Hi

It seems that the only url it is still not working is this one:

xxxx.com/contact-us.html?view=alfcontact
Well this is not a non-sef URL right, so it' s not supposed to work on that.

Please handle it however you like using the tools sh404SEF provides yo uwith:

1 - First ask yourself where did google find this link? then remove it when you find it.
2 - If not possible, add a canonical to /contact-us.html

Rgds
 
This ticket is closed, therefore read-only. You can no longer reply to it. If you need to provide more information, please open a new ticket and mention this ticket's number.