#7017 – Links in a Joomla module aren't working

 Dear Support,

I installed Sh404Sef in this web site: http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/

all links are working well.
The only exception are the links in the OR * OSCO * PO OF THE SE * TTIM * ANA module.
See my attachment.
Its code is this:

<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-ariete.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/ariete.png" alt="ariete" width="120" /><h3>Ariete</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-toro.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/toro.png" alt="toro" width="120" /><h3>Toro</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-gemelli.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/gemelli.png" alt="gemelli" width="120" /><h3>Gemelli</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-cancro.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/cancro.png" alt="cancro" width="120" /><h3>Cancro</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-leone.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/leone.png" alt="leone" width="120" /><h3>Leone</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-vergine.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/vergine.png" alt="vergine" width="120" /><h3>Vergine</h3></a><br>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-bilancia.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/bilancia.png" alt="bilancia" width="120" /><h3>Bilancia</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-scorpione.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/scorpione.png" alt="scorpione" width="120" /><h3>Scorpione</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-sagittario.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/sagittario.png" alt="sagittario" width="120" /><h3>Sagittario</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-capricorno.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/capricorno.png" alt="capricorno" width="120" /><h3>Capricorno</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-acquario.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/acquario.png" alt="acquario" width="120" /><h3>Acquario</h3></a>
<a class="zodiac-link" href="/oroscopo-della-settimana-pesci.html"> <img src="/anto49/images/icone-dei-12-segni-zodiacali/pesci.png" alt="pesci" width="120" /><h3>Pesci</h3></a>

I got 404 error from these links
I'll be gratefull if you may help me to solve this problem.
Thank you very much.
A nice day
Andrew

Dear Yannick,

the link posted by me is real.
The domain http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/ is an web hosting where I build the web site for my customers.
This web site is managed by my customer in his website here: http://www.xxxx.it/anto49/
This is the updated version where he is working now.
I think it will be finished in 1 to 2 weeks. I had a problem with a series of links that had IDs in the URLs and with Sh404sef I solved it.
The web site will be published in the main root http://www.xxxx.it
The only problem left is represented by that group of links in the Joomla custom module.
Let me know if you need admin keys or how I may help you to solve the problem.

Thank you very much.
Kind regards
Andrew

Dear Yannick,

thank you very much for your reply.

Here are my admin keys: http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/administrator

- U: xxxx

- P: xxxx

I followed your first suggest and I replaced the SEF URLs with links using the Joomla standard form:
index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=xxx&Itemid=yyy in the Custom HTML module called OROSCOPO DELLA SETTIMANA
in the home page.

Until yesterday the SEF URLs in this module came from a hidden module made by me. If you go to MENU --> NASCOSTO (HIDDEN)
you'll find these URLs
I tested on the first three zodiac signs: Ariete, Toro e Gemelli the links using the Joomla standard form:
index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=xxx&Itemid=yyy and they are working well
how you suggested me.

I noticed an interesting thing: when I click on the 3 signs (Ariete, Toro e Gemelli) then the linked page
that appears has a SEF link. This is good.
It's normal?

If I like to change the meta tag TITLEs in these categories articles:
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-ricette/
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-nomi-di-persona.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-superstizioni.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/erbe-aromatiche-e-primaverili.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/come-conquistare.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/influenze-dei-piante-tutti-i-segreti.html

where have I to go? Now article TITLE and meta tag TITLE are the same in these articles.

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http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-ricette/ belongs to Articles » Category Blog
and it hasn't HTML suffix in URL.
Is it possible to add it?

Thank you very much!
A nice afternoom.
Andrew

Dear Yannick,

thank you for your reply.

YOUR QUESTION: Can I ask why you would put content in a hidden module?

MY REPLY: The web site has different categories layouts:
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-ricette/
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-nomi-di-persona.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-superstizioni.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/erbe-aromatiche-e-primaverili.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/come-conquistare.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/influenze-dei-piante-tutti-i-segreti.html

all layouts are made by RAXO All-mode PRO module.
I used hidden menus to have more control on SEO menu items building and thus I made some hidden menus as:
- nascosto
- nascosto come conquistare
- nascosto erbe
- nascosto nomi persona
- nascosoto oroscopo
- nascosto ricette
- nascosto supersitizioni

I didn't know that after installing Sh404Sef they would stop working.
What do you recommend to do to solve the problem?

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YOUR QUESTION: And they look ok: they do NOT have the same page title or meta.
They have nothing in common at all. Maybe you fixed that already somehow? Did I miss something?

MY REPLY: Yes, it is another question. I ask for this because if some month I need to change the meta tag TITLE how I can get this?

Thank you very much for your help!!!
A nice afternoom
Andrew

Hi,
thank you very much for your help!

YOU WROTE: Hidden menus are fine and common. You said "Hidden modules" so that was something new!

MY REPLY: I wrote "hidden module". Excuse me. I meant a hidden menu.
I didn't know that after installing Sh404Sef the links in hidden menus would stop working.
What do you recommend to do to solve the problem?

Thank you very much.
Regards
Andrew

Dear Yannick,

thank you very much!

You wrote: ....The URL building happens the first time a URL is needed (to be displayed on a page for instance). It only happens once and then the URL is stored in the database and can be used for ever.....
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Does this mean that I will have to click on each link in the front end to build each web site link that will be stored in the Sh404sef database?
Or does Sh404sef make this automatically?

You told I used a "hidden module".
But I simply added a module (RAXO) into an Joomla article.
Is this what doesn't let Sh404Sef work?
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1 - Solution: do you have a detailed tutorial explaining how to do this?

2 - Question: those links appear to be archive pages. The question is: why is the module hidden?
why are those pages not linked from anywhere else? how can your visitors find those pages if you do not link them from anywhere else?
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The web site has 240 web pages (articles). Where can I publish 240 links to these web pages?
I want to give importance to the web pages with these categories (see below). Then search engines will follow the links.
The categories pages use "prev" and "next" tags. Then I'll install JSitemap extension.

- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-ricette/
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-nomi-di-persona.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-superstizioni.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/erbe-aromatiche-e-primaverili.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/come-conquistare.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/influenze-dei-piante-tutti-i-segreti.html

You're right that the visitor will have to search for the web pages, but I don't see any other solution.
Have you a better solution?

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http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-ricette/ belongs to Articles » Category Blog
and it hasn't HTML suffix in URL.
Is it possible to add it?

Thank you very much!!!
A nice weekend
Andrew

Dear Yannick,

YOU WROTE: 1 - Solution: do you have a detailed tutorial explaining how to do this?

Sorry now, that's standard Joomla stuff, we do have anything on that. Each module has an "Access" setting which you can set to an "Access level". Users have an access level based on their user group and only users with that access level can view the module (they need to login on the front end to see the module). Access levels are defined under "Users " -> "Access levels" and Joomla comes with a few predefined ones that you can surely use.

MY REPLY: During the weekend I entered Sh404sef and deleted all the links from the database.
After that I checked all the links of the categories:
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-ricette/
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-nomi-di-persona.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/archivio-superstizioni.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/erbe-aromatiche-e-primaverili.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/come-conquista.html
- http://www.xxxx.com/anto49/influenze-dei-piante-tutti-i-segreti.html

All links to categories articles are working properly. I found no 404 error.
May this be a solution to this question?

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YOU WOTE: I want to give importance to the web pages with these categories (see below). Then search engines will follow the links.

The categories pages use "prev" and "next" tags. Then I'll install JSitemap extension.

So I think I understand it will not be possible for a user arriving at your home page to navigate and find those articles? you want to rely on providing a sitemap to search engines, and then people will only find a given article if they search for it in Google?

If I understand correctly, then this is not going to give very good result. It's very unlikely anyone will find your pages.

The first problem is that search engines only use a sitemap as a hint. They will not load and index a page just because it's in your sitemap. And certainly not if there is no link to thoses articles from your site. That's a no go. Don't do that.

A common site structure is to have a menu link that goes to a "Blog" category view. In a blog view of a category, Joomla will list all articles in that category. So with one menu link, you provide a navigation path for users to find all articles inside a given category.

So with only a few links in your menu, you can "open" all your site's articles to your visitors (and search engines).

This is definitely not related to sh404SEF so I can't really go much further but I think you need to give some thoughts to your site structure before going any further.

Note that as soon you have those those categories linked from your menu, all links will be created properly by sh404SEF very quickly when you navigate to those category pages.
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MY REPLY: From the beginning all categories links are placed in the horizontal menu located under the slide show.
Perhaps this detail had eluded you.
I don't understand the difference between the category pages structure in my site and a normal e-commerce site structure.
If I have the Nike shoes category this will be similar to one of the 6 categories of mine.
In my web site each category contains links to various articles; the same happens for the Nike shoes category which will contain the links to the product sheets with the various Nike shoe models.

Please tell me if I'm wrong.

Thank you very much for your valuable help!
A nice evening.
Andrew

Hi Yannick,
thank you very much for your replies!

YOU WROTE: And the likely reason they were not working was maybe caching?
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MY REPLY: Joomla cache isn't working. Perhaps it depends by Sh404 database?
It has been updated since the links were not working.

If I go to SEF URL Panel (in Sh404) and then I delete all links. Then will I lose also the meta tags added in TITLES AND METAS Panel?

This is the last question :)

Thank you very much for every thing!!!
A nice evening
Andrew

Thank you very much for your help.
Kind regards
Andrew