#5693 – sh404SEF conflict with Joomla search

Hi

1 - Search: this is not Joomla search. sh404SEF is fully compatible with all Joomla standard features. This search box is coming from your template and is not the standard Joomla search which will always work. The fact it works when you disabled sh404SEF does not mean the problem actually comes from sh404SEF.

I cannot comment any more without actually seeing what's happening, that is with sh404SEF enabled.

2 -

Also, If I enable s404SEF, my url change from https://www.xxxx.com/products/alloy-steel-bar/cold-heading-steel-bar/ch1t to https://www.xxxx.com/cold-heading-steel-bar/ch1t

The 2nd and 3rd layer URL disappear, how could I make it appear as before?

That's expected and one of the reasons one normally uses sh404SEF, to get better URLs and avoiding duplicate content issues.

sh404SEF can be configured to mimic your old, Joomla-SEF URLs though. What kind of URLs are those? for which type of content exactly? Joomla articles?

Best regards

Hi

1 - So I did a search and actually the search does not jump to the home page. As you can see in the address bar, the URL is good and there's no functional issue: the search works fine. The URL you get to is:

https://www.xxxx.com/search?searchphrase=all&searchword=industry

What's happening here is simply that the display is based on joomla home page menu item and because your template has a special display for the home page, the search results are not shown.

This is typically caused by Joomla creating multiple URLs for the same page and can easily be fixed:

- go to SEF URL manager
- search for search - which is the URL used by the search function
- in the duplicates column you must have a counter showing how many duplicates Joomla created, similar to:



- click on that counter, you'll get a list of duplicate non-sef URLs that sh404SEF grouped under the same SEF, search:



You'll see all the duplicates, usually varying by the Itemid value which is the menu item id in Joomla. Currently, the non-sef URL with the Home page menu item id must be selected. Choose another URL with an appropriate menu Item id, select it and click the "Make main" button.

That should be it.

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I know that sh404SEF try to make URL short to become friendly to SEO,

That's not at all what sh404SEF is trying to do. What we're trying to do is avoid the duplicate content issues that appears with Joomla SEF system because it is based on menu items. In other words, there can be multiple links to the same page depending on which navigation/menu you used to arrive to it.
That's why URLs in sh404SEF do not rely on menu items. The length has nothing to do with it and many times the sh404SEF URLs will be longer.
URLs in sh404SEF are built based on items categories and titles: something that won't change based on navigation and so the same page will always have the same URL.

, my customer on the web maybe want to see the whole structural of the problem belows, full URL is very helpful for them, not the sh404SEF short URL.

You can usually configure the URL structure in sh404SEF but I would need you to reply to my question before we can go any further on that:

What kind of URLs are those? for which type of content exactly? Joomla articles?

Best regards

Hi

Yes, but you still have not replied to the question:

for which type of content exactly? Joomla articles?

Articles? Virtuemart? Hikashop? something else?

Best regards

Hi

OK, so the URL configuration for Joomla article is located under "Extensions" => "Joomla". There you'll see dropdown selects to decide which article categories to include in the URLs. Like I said before, with sh404SEF all links are based on the natural structure of the content, given by categories and links.



If you make any change there, don't forget to go to the SEF URL manager afterwards and Purge all URLs with the Purge button. This will delete the current URLs and new ones will be created again as you navigate your site. Go first to the home page and just navigate to your products. Be sure also to clear your Joomla cache if you use that.

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Hi

The problem still exist, URL still be long, did I set wrong ?

URL are long or short?

Please use real examples.

To be clear: when you select "All nested categories" then all the categories an article belongs to are going to be used to build its URL.

As an exemple: products/alloy-steel-bar/cold-heading-steel-bar/ch1t

Does this article "ch1t" is in categories: products --> alloy steal bar --> cold heading steal bar?

If yes, the URL will be: /products/alloy-steel-bar/cold-heading-steel-bar/ch1t
If not, then the actual categories will be used: /categories-1/categories-2/ch1t

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Hi

This

Yes, ch1t article is in categories: products>alloy steel bar>cold heading steel bar

and this

I already set "all nested categories", but when I enable sh404SEF, it still become into

https://www.xxxx.com/cold-heading-steel-bar/ch1t

are not compatible. Are you sure you have purged URLs after changing the settings?

Best regards

Hi,

The answer is exactly the same: sh404SEF uses ALL nested categories. If you put your content in the /sample-data-articles, then it will have that category in the URL as well.

You should probably move your content and make the "product" category be a top-level category. Once you've done that, remember to Purge URLs so that new URLs are created.

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Hi

Glad it's sorted out now. Closing this ticket now, feel free to open a new one as needed. If you do so, please mention this ticket number in the new one.

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